A Cessna 182 left Meridian, Mississippi, at 4:21 p.m. CDT, bound for Columbus, Georgia, with two aboard. The plant releases huge quantities of hot water vapour through stacks, (industrial chimneys). To Anonymous, dated Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:55:00 AM EDTQuestion: What explanation do you have besides your technical dissertation of how to interpret ADS-B data for what occurred besides the broken busted minima mantra? It would be more enlightening if you pointed out that due to TERPS, the only approach that could be approved was a non-precision LNAV with no vertical guidance and a steep 3.75 descent angle due to the silos and other obstructions. She traveled, she laughed, she loved. The lights would have been hazy through a fog of snow and steam. Wonder who got paid off to approve that nonsense building permit. The crash wasn't a result of a tower appearing out of nowhere, but an airplane appearing where it shouldn't be. But remember runways don't vote "but we can't equip these airports with an ILS"That is a misguided statement, because it is not funding for an ILS but rather the surrounding obstacles at this airport that are preventing it from having better approaches. Watching dockets and following up can reveal that as much as everyone hopes otherwise, pilot decision making really was the undoing.The CVR transcript has finally been placed in the docket for the November 30, 2019 crash of N56KJ in Chamberlain. The "Gem State Potato Processing Plant" blanches, cooks, and mashes potatoes 24/7. I once nearly killed myself by misinterpreting what was before me driving my motorcycle at night through mist. Older Model Caravans have a history of crashes in icing conditions. There is no RWY 30 at KBYI. Not sure if runway lights would be on, since it was 8:32 AM MDT with sunrise an hour and a half earlier at 6:56 AM. "If you are focused on approaching a short runway, there is no VSGI to guide you on the required steep non-standard descent angle, it can be easy to miss the grey colored obstacles that don't stand out. I will say that the analyses here have been very well thought out and thought provoking. It may be tempting to go below the MDA before the VDP at an uncontrolled field, but then again, why do it and risk death? Cmores comment= enough said- til more is known. Hiring requires vetting and training. When there is wind, vapour rises up and away from the stacks, condenses, and begins to fall. Flags in front of City Hall will be lowered to half-staff and a City Council meeting in the new year will be adjourned in honor of Minters service.. no lift in warm/wet steam. Maybe she saw the snake river and runway but didn't see the stack? There were five aboard, the Private rated pilot and four passengers. Welcome back, Kathryn's Report! Accident Investigation report not yet completed, but information verified through authorities or other sources. That's not much time at 90-100kts, about 20 seconds from the time the aircraft hits decision altitude 500 feet above the ground to the time it is paralell to the stacks.On a 3 degree glidpath to LPV minimums you are 54 feet above the normal threshold. The C150 pilot does not deserve to be smeared by the shoddy imitation. It sounds like your operation needs to improve its pilot evaluation, vetting, and training. She went full power and could not arrest her descent and hit the stack. The stacks are about 2050 feet from the runway end as marked by the threshold bar before the "piano keys" and not including the displaced threshold. The airplane was recovered to a secure facility for further examination. (Lateral integrity of 0.3 nm. At the least, the isolated stack should have been brightly illuminated using LEDs, and painted with alternating yellow and black rings along its entire height. Gotta crank one out. 0. It increases the weight of the aircraft and changes the weight and balance. The airplane was operated as a Title 14 Code of Federal Regulation Part 135 cargo flight. (NTSB). The insurance company, the salvage team, the trauma center were all baffled at how I survived the crash. A Ninety-Nines newsletter described the judge's wife Doris's successful effort to keep SMO open back when she was on the commission. We don't need to be paying for ILS equipment when RNAV approaches allow the same minimums with zero additional ground signal equipment at a fraction of the cost. youre implying that a 30 year old female had a major medical incident the moment she was on final approach in marginal wx and that caused the accident. Although Brittney passed away young, her adventurous, loving spirit led to an abundant life. FlightAware's track log is heavily sampled and rounded, showing one track point every 20-30 seconds despite ADS-B transmitting a data point every second. Additionally, the aircraft should have been approximately 100 feet to the right of the stacks if the needles/diamonds are centered and on the approach path. It's not just a pipe. I listed them as assumptions because I considered the info unverified until we get confirmation of a measured stack height.If the FAA obstruction listing is correct, that means ground level at the potato plant is only 4 feet higher than TDZE (4256 - 100 - 4152 = 4 feet). AD Compliance Report April 2022. Warm Springs Police Chief Bill Elliott said the Warm Springs Dispatch Center received a report around 2:30 p.m. from Seattle Air Traffic Control of the possible plane crash in the area of the . I admire everyone who is alive and I am happy for those of us, regardless of age who enjoy the freedom to decide on how to spend our time. There were three people on board who sustained injuries in the crash. Nevertheless, based on the actual weather, security video and eye witness report, the visibility was 1SM at the time of the accident, giving the pilot only 16 seconds from breaking out, to react before hitting the tower. The 200 nm flight was to be VFR, no flight plan, at 5,500 feet. Minter was elected to the Santa Monica City Council in 1955 and served as mayor from 1963-1967. First approach got down to 4375 which is 185 below MDA. Really, really nice woman and safe pilot, Pilot's father says she flew to this airport all the time and was well aware of any obstacles. Piper PA 31 Navajo Wikipedia FedEx FedEx Express Introduces New Feeder Aircraft May 14th, 2018 - Modernization of feeder fleet continues with Cessna SkyCourier 408 designed . Their bond was unbreakable, and their most fun times were spent together, especially when traveling the world. Search our listings for used & new airplanes updated daily from 100's of private sellers & dealers. Maybe you thought they were recent because the overhead photo shown on google map imaging is not as recent as street view or the Town News article photos and the red metal structure and yellow ladder wasn't there when the outdated overhead image was taken. Your nonsense responses like "false" with zero explanation demonstrates that you have no actual idea what TERPS, an obstacle clearance surface, and approach minimums are. Better yet, how about a test of your instrument skill set with added emergencies? Newer pilot here so my apologies for any ignorance. El Paso, TX USA I have never experienced a flameout . If there is an option because the beach is completely unoccupied, is there an ideal choice to make between aiming for the sand or the water? Reply. Four years ago, Burley airport lost their Federal Aviation Administration funding because it did not meet their safety standards due to short runways. 1. The MDA is 4560 with a TDZE of 4152; so 408 above with a requirement of 1 mile visibility. She was always striving to be an example of Christ and share His love with others. Paint transfer from impact points to determine the planes flight path. Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017. How could anyone be up here, see Gods creation, and doubt His love? she had asked. Accident investigation report completed and information captured. Updated: 4:45 p.m. A small plane crashed into the second story of a Hermantown home just before midnight Saturday night, killing three people on board. A man lost his life and RIP to his loved ones and friends. The cause of the crash was disputed: a US investigation concluded that it was an act of murder-suicide by the captain; however, the Indonesian investigators were undetermined. The fully revealed circumstances are a huge cautionary tale. In addition, the publication notes that seat belts alone will only protect the occupant in very minor impacts and that using shoulder harnesses in small aircraft would reduce injuries by 88 percent and fatalities by 20 percent.". If you were a pilot you would know that warm/wet air has very little lift. I admire Mayor Minter for being in an airplane at age 95. COO occasionally recaps fatalities as a learning tool for pilots, as the reports are very often informative and important. The collision smokestack is directly on centerline. In general, FlightAware is not intended to be an accurate indication of aircraft altitudes and positions for forensic purposes, so armchair investigators would do well not to draw detailed conclusions from FA data. Ever heard of a displaced threshold? She was WAY low to have hit those. (or the overcast). All: "Diverting today is less justifiable, weather is not at minimums"6. Well-stated, very good bias what-if scenario. Cessna 182P Skylane, N58807: Fatal accident occurred September 05, 2022 in Cleveland, Bradley County, Tennessee . It is unfortunate that Mr. Minter was in an airplane accident, but the stories so far have not discovered his interest and involvement in aviation:"Raised in Santa Monica, Minter served in The United States Marine Corps. GMAFB.And insulting me (or trying to) doesn't speak to the weakness of my position, but rather the weakness of yours. When I look at Google Earth and that smoke stack it obvious it was only a matter of time before that stack met a plane trying to make the runway. Sometimes, a thin coating of ice will form on the windshield, preceded in some instances by frosting. https://gemairflights.com/. There is a LOT of detail logged in the G1000 system onboard these aircraft. Sorry. Do that at many many airports and you'll probably hit something. Though it adds six inches of headroom, the feature is virtually invisible from the . Brittney was born on January 31, 1992 in Salmon, Idaho to Sharon and Jim Bob Infanger, their fifth child and second daughter. First, it is sad that we lost such a wonderful young lady who had nothing but love in her heart and who served others selflessly. "From:http://backissues.smdp.com/090820.pdf(See pdf sheet 10). I estimated that the top of the stack is maybe 150 AGL feet and about 50-60 feet above the building. You don't have any vertical guidance at all, so if you're a bit low for whatever reason you don't know it then you're dead. "blame it on the steam cloud" assigns no responsibility, no liability. At that point, runway or runway lighting were visible but not necessarily the thin grey stack in between. Usually the pencil-thin outside air temperature gauge is the first place where ice forms on an airplane. If she was still in IMC after minimums, the witness and security camera would not have seen her aircraft. The survey segment of the flight commenced about 14 km to the northwest of the airport and was conducted at a height of about 200 ft above . The pilots forward view would be very limited almost nothing. folks in charge of choosing these airports are not always aware of the dangers of choosing these airports for daily scheduled flights in all weather conditions. Weather, 20 minutes before incident, was 1 mile, light snow, broken at 2300, overcast at 2800. Remember, is was a cold, snowy morning, with very limited visibility, and according to the AWOS at the time of the crash, the temperature/dewpoint spread was only two degrees; in other words a very nearly saturated atmosphere. All seven occupants died, including diet guru Gwen Shamblin Lara and her husband, actor Joe Lara. The airplane came to rest on its right side. For whatever reason, she was below MDA, and I'm guessing they'll find fuel starvation. In this case, you have an unconventional approach angle, no vertical guidance, no VASI, no PAPI. The location where the witness was viewing from is a significant factor for interpreting what is reported as seen. except for a steam cloud that probably obscured some smoke stacks and towers. She received her private flying license in high school. The first structures to accumulate ice are the surfaces with thin leading edges: antennas, propeller blades, horizontal stabilizers, rudder, and landing gear struts. The comments at Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:55:00 AM were debunking the broken "busted minimums" mantra that some armchair NTSB investigators on here are parroting here from their misinterpretation of inprecise FlightAware data. The instrument approach has no vertical guidance, so you are on your own to see and avoid these obstructions which have no lighting during the day. Hi, thanks for the info and the link. Replies. If the pilot was following the 3.75 deg. Precision matters to actual pilots. advisory GS, that would have put her 50-60' below MDA. The pilot made the processing plant a problem by being in IMC, 75' agl 2500' from the runway threshold. Quickest way to get there Cheapest option Distance between. About 1 minute later, the controller asked the pilot if she had crossed the initial approach fix. "It's not a minimums bust if you have any of the required runway elements in sight before you descend. Are youtube's oracles saying a silo was hit?Silos are adjacent but it was the #16-036731 stack in the obstruction database that was hit. KBYI has a 3.7 degree glidepath for obstacles, including the plant and the railroad brige, which would put her at 66.7 feet over the threshold and about 108 feet over the end of the displaced threshold. There is no "glidepath", "decision altitude", "needles" (plural), or any sort of vertical guidance at all. Reply. 2 dead in crash between F-16, Cessna 01:06. Nevertheless, RIP to Brittney and condolences to her family and friends. But I don't find it baffling that a 95-year-old would not survive the accident. Steam enters such drums at 140-180C (284-356F) and 10-12 bar. Her life was not any more valuable because she was pretty. But I admire the heck out of him! She not only saw the best in people, she brought out the best in people. . The aircraft left quite an impressive impact crater, and both people aboard are presumed dead. And if your flight path elevation there is correct (not saying it isn't), 4,365 is below the MDA of 4,560 so all pilots would have visual conditions before reaching it by simply following the MDA protocol.Here is the record for the stack she hit, obstruction #16-036731.16-036731 O US ID HEYBURN 42 33 05.92N 113 45 34.15W STACK 1 00100 04256 R 4 D P 2016ANM01617OE A 2017285Full stack record discussion showing the source data origin, how to decode the obstacle record and a position verification to be certain of the correct match by mapping the 42 33 05.92N 113 45 34.15W location is already posted up thread. So according to Jepp, the usable runway length is 3,787 feet. Rule is, you don';t go below the MDA unless the runway environment is continuously in sight and for the Caravan pilot, it was not. If the stacks are putting out a bunch of smoke and steam, I can see how you could easily hit them despite them having red anti-collision lighting (according to the obstacle database at least.). From the Flight Aware track log from 10:31:37 EDT to 10:32:04 EDT, a timeframe of 27 seconds, the plane lost 22 knots of ground speed and lost 300 feet in altitude. The silos were within TERPS requirements. "Your nonsense responses like "false" with zero explanation demonstrates that you have no actual idea what TERPS, an obstacle clearance surface, and approach minimums are. I only have about 8,000 hours behind PT engines, so what do I know? "The captains poor performance during the accident flight was consistent with past performance deficiencies in flying nonprecision approaches noted during training; the errors that the captain made were likely the result of confusion over why the profile did not engage, his belief that the airplane was too high, and his lack of compliance with standard operating procedures." Brittney was preceded in death by her paternal and maternal grandparents, Vera and Ray Infanger and Idell and Don Weeks, and her brother, Earl James E.J. Infanger. As a former freight dog, we had many rules of thumb or personal SOP, and the published current charts, OP Specs, and FARs. The reported ceilings were well above the MDA, so unless you were sitting in the cockpit next to the pilot, you have no idea if they could make out the runway or not when they passed the MDA. (Note: BYI METAR winds were 200 at 7 to 8 knots during both approaches. Yesterday's divert impact/scramble is fresh in dispatcher's mind.- Possible bias factors:5. they should be required to fly out to these locations on days like this once in a while for the education needed to make safer decisions on where these pilots must go risk their lives every day. Someone who kept risking it that day in spite of the aircraft diverting to Twin Falls the day before, which suggests that the freight company could deal with handling the 30 mile location shift of freight delivery/pickup for the more sensible divert away from the impossible to overcome steam cloud.If it doesn't turn out to be the impossible PT-6 failure or impossible pilot PT-6 misoperation, then all that remains is pilot error from risking the impossible to overcome steam cloud that had just been flown over and had a good look at on the first approach, hoping against hope that it wouldn't be impossible to overcome this time.Letting the video channel guy assign the impossible to overcome steam cloud as the certain to be true cause has replaced his prior assignment of the "intentionally busted minimums" story to the minds of easily influenced followers. That's not saying it isn't a challenging approach but something else was going on here. Easy enough to fact check using Adsbexchange and the LiveAtc recording.Results:-Cleared for takeoff @7 minute mark on LiveAtc-ADS-B shows airborne by @23:08:23Z-Flies along coast, gets halfway to Malibu-No airspeed or altitude trouble so far-ADS-B shows a turnback starting @23:14:00-"I'd like to return" @14 minute mark LiveAtc-ADS-B speed & altitude degrading on the way back-Declares Emergency just before 16 minute mark -ATC offers "left base for runway 3" @17 minute mark-ADS-B shows crossing the pier @23:18:04Simple to listen to comm audio source files for yourself:https://www.liveatc.net/archive.phpThis accident's file is found by selecting:Date: 22 December, Time: 2300-2330Z, Feed: "KSMO Tower #1". Thanks for the correction, point taken. In the USA people get fed a steady diet of emotionalized and sensationalized TV and other media from an early age on around the clock and everywhere, airports, waiting rooms and especially at home. Maybe make runway lights magenta, leave the centerline green. If she didn't hit the tower, she would of hit the parking lot. pilots of america. Yes, the pilot descended below minimums but she did so because she had the runway in sight, which is NOT a minimums "bust". Locals claim Burley Airport was dedicated on the 4th of July 1930.A lot can happen in 92 years of growth.https://burleyidaho.org/188/Burley-Municipal-Airport. It shows the end of RWY20 as 4143' at the threshold, and 4160' on the ground beside the potato plant. Good observation about first occurrence. The plane took off from Kissimmee, Florida, and was . An Airmens Meteorological Information (AIRMET) advisory was active for icing and mountain obscurations for areas that included BYI.By the way, the automated weather facility at KBYI is an ASOS, not AWOS. Our beautiful and beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, niece, cousin and friend will be missed more than words can express, but she will be in all our hearts until we meet again. sadly, we'll never know what she was seeing or thinking in those final moments. The Cessna 421 plane crash was just after 11 am local time this morning. The altimeter setting at the destination airport was 29.97, so the pressure altitude correction would be +50 feet, which puts the aircraft right at the expected altitude of 7,000 feet, not 50 feet too low as you surmised.3. Two small sections of the Cessna 340's left tip tank was located near the Cessna 152 wreckage. Stacks on the roof at the collision location were photographed there in a 2018 Town News article about the plant.Street view images can be compared to the 2018 article photo that captured the six-stack array at the same height and in-line on the roof along the flight path just beyond the one that was struck. There may also be weather equipment at that plant and it may have logging capability. The reported ceilings were well above the MDA, so unless you were sitting in the cockpit next to the pilot, you have no idea if they could make out the runway or not when they passed the MDA. He owns the minds of those fans and is working toward harvesting their donations in the times ahead. Strange things happen when you get tired. and should have gone around or made sure the diamonds were centered.https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220413/1300Z/KSLC/KBYI/tracklogBoth of those approaches aren't as stabilized so my guess is that she was experiencing a lot of turbulence though the winds were fairly light (8kts) and practically straight down the runway (190). Brittney Infanger was a highly skilled and trusted pilot. The "what happened" seems evident, but "why it happened" is unknown and will likely remain that way. Kathryn's Report: Judge Awards $11.9 Million in Suit Against Civil Air Patrol: Beechcraft 95-B55 Baron, N36638, Executive Aircraft Storage LLC, fatal accident occurred February 22, 2014 at LaGrange Callaway Airport (KLGC), Troup County, Georgia. Also, if were going to go there, Id go as far as to say most all were incorrect as to the cause of the incident of N56KJ. Kathryn's Report (kathrynsreport.com) Kathryn's Report: This Aviation Blog Is Permanently Open (kathrynsreport.com) Edit, as Eman said, "permanently closed for a little while" , the entry now says permanently open. I only flew in the eastern, midwestern, western, and northern United States milieu in those 30 years, so maybe i didn't see enough. WHY? Information is only available from news, social media or unofficial sources. The pilot had the right idea to land on the hard-packed sand. Doesn't make sense to say "I read all the comments" and then talk about runway lighting when comments upthread established that the crash at 8:32 AM was an hour and a half after the 6:56 sunrise. Assuming the aircraft is indicating 7000 on the altimeter, when she went missed and flew the published missed approach, she was 50 feet lower than expected. ntsb releases preliminary report on recent air show crash. Give it up, she didn't bust minimums she got sucked right into that smokestack by the steam cloud she couldn't get out of in time.This is 100% on the potato plant. So much hate over something trivial sad that so many in our society have succumbed to this level. The Cessna took off from nearby Berkeley County Airport just before 11 a.m., likely on it's way to Myrtle Beach. Previous day, the aircraft had to divert to Twin Falls. Rest easy. You're missing his point entirely. "It was a 100% bound to happen eventuality." Loss of Control in Flight: Cessna 525C Citation CJ4, N614SB, fatal accident occurred December 29 . If you fly through a light, dry snow shower, you're unlikely to see ice accumulation. On a hot day, fine droplets may evaporate before they can fall, so there is only rising air. Interpreting the original post can be taken as:A: The pilots don't always get the necessary hand holding-or-B: The pilots don't get what flying is all about.Seems like original post was A, response interpreted it as B. Here is street view of the one hit AND the group of six:https://goo.gl/maps/WeoRjbGZmZXoMTCc7This photo of the six is from the 2018 Town News article:https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/magicvalley.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/c2/bc27f097-bd84-53a5-aeb6-2da8c0892dd7/5a7a51136f27f.image.jpg?resize=785%2C500The 2018 Town News article itself:https://magicvalley.com/gem-state-processing-provides-jobs-inclusive-plant-culture/article_94ba4fdd-39fa-5288-9562-597369987652.htmlThose stacks have been on the roof at least four years. The twin engine Cessna reportedly came down near Andrews Avenue.Reports are []. The plane would have yawed left, stalling the left wing and rolled inverted. The condensate can blow into your path within seconds, unexpectedly. I noticed Dan's poor comm skills also and the pilot's incorrect read backs.Then to prove how dangerous the LNAV +V approach is, they fly it high, seemingly to prove how the advisory glide slope dragged the 208 down in to the tower. Agreed - not assuming willful pilot disregard of minimums until PT-6 operation is evaluated is the responsible viewpoint until investigation makes determinations.Accident aircraft was a 2013 production aircraft, not a steam gage model. The tower was 60 agl, she lost altitude quickly when she hit the steam cloud. The approach path passes just above the smokestack, and there's no vertical guidance because it's LNAV only. The YouTube "Clown" commingled an half-assed apology with begging for $cash money$ be sent to him. Conveyor belts feed mash to the bottom surfaces of six huge, slowly rotating steel drums that are heated internally by steam. This is probably why the pilot decided to continue the approach. They just list basic facts and observations with occasional cursory analysis. (Which is common in CFIT accidents non precision approaches). Please keep in mind, comments on tragedies like these sometimes come from, and are seen by, people who knew them. For lost lift or turbulence from stack vapor plume as the cause of the crash, the obvious next question is why the first approach that went missed didn't include a crash into the plant from the effects that brought the Caravan down on the accident approach.What was different?Looking at three first approach data points in sequence, two of which were located before reaching the Gem plant and a third beyond BYI, with locations map-pinned for viewing, the difference shows up as ground speed much greater during first approach:Wed 10:11:37 AM 42.5614 -113.7494 218 133 153 4,625 -913http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5614+-113.7494Wed 10:11:53 AM 42.5532 -113.7580 217 128 147 4,375 -128http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5532+-113.7580Wed 10:12:59 AM 42.5277 -113.7819 207 93 107 4,450 192http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5277+-113.7819That raises another question:After having flown that first approach and experiencing the vapor plume, why was the second approach ground speed reduced to 81/80 knots from the first approach's 133/128 knots coming toward the Gem plant? 0:06. "Given that the approach predates the stack she hit, I'm just guessing that the stack was not the reason why there is only an RNAV approach. Survivors. In the publication it states that if an airplane was manufactured without shoulder harnesses, the owner should obtain a kit to install them from the manufacturer or manufacturer's local representative. Try again. )The record again, now with tolerance codes highlighted:16-036731 O US ID HEYBURN 42 33 05.92N 113 45 34.15W STACK 1 00100 04256 R 4 D P 2016ANM01617OE A 2017285For stack 16-036731, code "D" means that the declared accuracy of the recorded vertical information in AGL and MSL is +/- 50 feet, which for a 100' stack is an absurdly large tolerance. It is possible that the Pratt and Whitney PT-6-114A, 675 shp Turbine engine experienced a flameout which would result in an immediate loss of power and subsequent descent. 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